Saxon Shore is a band that is definitely making some of the more vital instrumental post-rock around today. They have put out several recordings and toured extensively, including two national tours to date, an amazing feat considering that the band's members live hundreds of miles from one another. I had the good fortune of getting them to come and play at our party on 2/11. While I was expecting a mellow and atmospheric performance as suggested by their studio recorded tracks, I was instead caught off guard by a viscerally pummelling assault of heavy guitars and washes of electronic sounds which were more frazzling than relaxing. Witnessing the Saxons unison head-banging with an autistic fervor, I knew I had found the subject of my next feature. I caught up with principal songwriter Matt Doty, and the following is the result of several email exchanges.
What's your hometown Horseheads like?
Horseheads is a small village in the southern tier/upstate NY and was named
after the first settlers found the skulls of horses arranged along a trail
that ran through the area in 1789. It's generally quiet though and not as
morbid as the name implies.
How did you get into playing music? And what are your musical influences?
My parents would often help promote and work at small music expos when I
was growing up. Being around those kind of people I'm sure had an effect on
me. I was also raised in an evangelical Christian home which prevented my
exposure to a lot of the music and activities others my age did at that
time.. I remember the first time I heard Nirvana though was on CNN and I
was just completely in awe. It was a consistent string of events from there
following my first guitar and attempting to transfer a decade of training on
classical piano into this new instrument.
Have you played in or do you play in any other bands?
I did some guitar work for a band called Elkland last year, pretty much just
writing and recording guitar parts for their EP and full length due out some
time this year and a small amount of touring. They're also from Horseheads
and we all grew up together so when their guitar player quit right before
they started recording they asked if I'd be willing to help out. Saxon
Shore is my main focus now since we took most of last year off to kind of
sort/settle things out.
Saxon Shore seems to have members who live in several different states. How did you meet the guys in your band?
I met our current drummer, Steve, a few years ago when our bands were
playing shows together in the NY area and I met Matt Stone, Josh and Zach
Tillman, Oliver Chapoy and Will Stichter in a similar fashion. I think
that's been pretty consistent for us.
You also seem to have had many lineup changes, with members who have come and gone. What are the constants in Saxon Shore?
Josh Tillman, our former drummer, was pretty much the cofounder of Saxon
Shore with me, though I've always been the songwriter. At this point I'd say
it's a collective of sorts with almost a set of live members and a set of
recording members.
Does Saxon sound very different today than when the band first started? Could you describe the evolution of your sound and the
intentions behind each record or phase that you went through?
I think our sound has naturally progressed into what it is today. Our first
album, Be a Bright Blue, was very simple with guitar, bass and drums and
the second, Four Months of Darkness, added more textures and electronic
elements while the new EP, Luck Will Not Save Us From a Jackpot of
Nothing, was based heavily on analog keyboard sounds and minimal
programming.
How do you guys manage to be so prolific and tour as often as you do with members living so far apart?
I had a similar situation with my previous band- we'd meet only 3 or 4
times a year and crank a bunch of tunes on the spot- barely enough to put out a record once a year, and we never played
out. How does songwriting and rehearsal work out for you guys?
In the past it's always been somewhat stressful since we never toured with
the same members twice. We also lacked a reliable vehicle which is
something we've just recently taken care of. The members are a little more
centralized now as far as being in the Northeast area. We're still a few
hours away from each other, but it works.
Download 8.23.03 (live) by Saxon Shore
Maybe it's because you were playing new material when I saw you, but I
got the impression that your live shows and your recorded material
represent two very different sides of the band. Namely, your
recordings are sort of mellow and explore delicate textures and
instrumentation, whereas, live, you guys are extremely heavy and even
a bit brutal. Can you account
for this difference? What are your objectives when performing live as
opposed to crafting a record?
I think that's something we're looking to take on for the full length as far
as some more aggressive material, but it will be balanced with our gentler
side. Also, a lot of our songwriting in the past has been committed to
tape/hard-drive before we really get to play the song live and work out the
feel/dynamics of it, but we've already started demo-ing the songs for the
new album which is something we haven't done in the past.
I read on your site that you guys did the file-sharing thing in order
to craft the recordings for your latest EP. Do you have any thoughts
or comments about this way of working as
opposed to working together in person with your bandmates?
Being able to just give creative input into something without 3 or 4 other
people standing around trying to create their own parts as well was
something new and it was nice being able to take as much time as we wanted
to record. After we had things pretty much how we wanted them we took the
album into the studio with John Hill for some additional production and
mixing.
You told me Saxon Shore will be recording with Dave Fridmann this
Spring. Congratulations! How did that come about?
We all enjoy Dave's work as a producer and think working with him will help
expand the recorded sound we've achieved on previous albums. I think the
first time we met Dave was at a show up in Fredonia.
What have your past recording experiences been like? Can
you give us any insight into Dave's recording/production philosophy? I
feel like with his records, there is some common
sonic signature to all of them- not to the point where they all sound
like they were done by the same band, but there is just something "Dave
Fridmanny" about them.
We're looking forward to getting some quality time in with Dave. In the
past we've recorded and mixed albums in 2-3 studio days and this time we get
a full 2-3 weeks to get things sounding good. We'll still be doing a lot of
the programming and electronics before we go into the studio just because
that is very time consuming. Technically I don't know much about the whole
recording process though. I have an Mbox which I know how to use and that's
about it.
I'm not asking so much about the technical aspects of
recording, as I am about any broader objectives
you guys discussed as you explored a working relationship with him.
We haven't talked too much about the album yet because we're still getting our demos together.
We'll probably get to talking about sounds after that.
Okay, my last question. With all the touring that you've done, you must have some crazy stories
from being on the road. Tell us about the most horrific, or the best, show Saxon Shore
has ever played. Also, how are you received in different parts of the country?
We're pretty well received along the east coast and midwest which are areas
we've played a lot. We only made it out west once, but given the
circumstances it was cool. Hmm, worst show ever.. There was a night in
Kansas City where all the locals cancelled and even though we had like
KCstar show pick of the week and all there wasn't a soul in the place that
wasn't paid to be there. We didn't even bother loading in and drove all
night to Minneapolis. We arrived there around 6am and if you've been to
Minneapolis you know it's one of the coldest places on earth. We didn't
have load in until 8pm or whenever so we finally got a hold of the promoter
around noon and he let us come crash at his place. The thing about that was
he was having his roof repaired that day so there were about 5 guys banging
on the roof above while we tried resting up on his living room floor as dust
and small pieces of sheetrock fell on and around us.
Thanks, Matt!
Website: http://www.saxonshore.com